At one point I had wondered if this was the case with Obama’s time given the difference between what Patry said and then what the birth certificate said. This would be kind of strange though because the difference in the times was small enough not to make a huge difference.

The funny thing is that in some cases the release of a birth time could actually be a boon to a politician though, because if the chart looks eminent then all of a sudden you have a bunch of astrologers predicting that you will be the winner of the election or what have you. That is basically what happened during the UAC panel where everyone unanimously predicted Obama as the winner based on the birth time they got from Patry.

So, one could argue the pros and cons of releasing one’s birth data either way.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Obama’s campaign leaked a birth time a bit more favorable astrologically than the real one, knowing that astrologers were going to make predictions based on it.

I’m not sure that I agree that the majority of the NCGR astrologers predicted that McCain would win though. My general impression was that the majority of astrologers were predicting that Obama would win, which is why it was somewhat surprising when I would notice someone prominent predicting that McCain would take the election, like Ray Merriman for example.

What a great site. You have my support!!!! I would like to second the opinion that predictions are all about transits, astronomical events and transits. Here’s why…

On election day, I ran Obama’s erroneous birth chart next to the Eclipse of August 1, 2008 and he would have been the obvious winner of ANY contest because he had the energy of the August 1 2008 eclipse aspect pattern behind him. The Eclipse was within a 3 point orb of his Sun. Mercury, the FTD/FedEx like messenger from the heavens, was conjunct his Sun. Even with the corrected time, the eclipse aspect pattern holds strong. The 6-hour difference does effect the faster moving solar points like the Ascendant, Midheaven, Moon Nodes, the Vertex, and the Arabic Parts but the planet positions including the Sun, Moon and Mercury did not move, nor did their modern rulers.

Sadly, the majority of the NCGR affiliated astrologers, with the exception of Mr. Caton, pronounced McCain the winner long before the elections. They worked hard and produced data derived from some pretty complicated formulas. This ignored what the obvious transits and astronomical events were bringing forth. In the case of the August 1, 2008 Eclipse, it brought forth Obama.

You are also welcome to join me inside the beltway (Washington, DC) at aerolithicastrology.blogspot.com where you’ll find the astrological series on The Rise of Obama.

Keep up the good work!!!

Elizabeth

Watson, I am not underestimating the fickleness of the electorate but rather counting on it! When you say fickle you are essentially saying Lunar. Most people vote with their emotions not their heads. Thus, they are more subject to being caught up in such historical waves as I laid out above, not less. Heavens knows if people voted rationally we would never have had a functionally illiterate and emotionally retarded former drunk and business failure for president!